九江社会 发表于 2021-1-6 10:29:33

九江一业主投诉公寓交房延期且要收取燃气初装费?合理吗?

<p style="text-align: center;"><br/></p><p></p><section data-role="outer" label="Powered by 135editor.com" style="white-space: normal;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="100780" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;letter-spacing: 0.544px;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin-top: -10px;padding-top: 10px;padding-left: 4px;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;border-top: 1px solid rgb(55, 131, 199);border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(55, 131, 199);border-left: 1px solid rgb(55, 131, 199);border-right: none;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section data-autoskip="1" style="padding: 1em;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;line-height: 1.75em;letter-spacing: 1.5px;font-size: 14px;color: rgb(24, 112, 190);background: rgb(246, 249, 253);border-right: 1px solid rgb(24, 112, 190);overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 16px;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-weight: 700;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">近日,市民李先生反映,他买的公寓房通知交房了,但是过程却不太顺利,在交付验房时不仅需要交钱,交房时间也与合同约定的不一致,因此他认为开发商有一定的违约嫌疑。</span></span><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-weight: 700;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"></span></span></section></section><section data-width="100%" style="margin-left: 4px;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;width: 1140px;height: 8px;background: rgb(246, 249, 253);overflow: hidden;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br/></section></section></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; min-height: 1em; letter-spacing: 0.544px; line-height: 2em; font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"></span></p><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="95975" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;letter-spacing: 0.544px;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;text-align: center;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;display: inline-block;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin-left: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; width: 20px; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><img data-ratio="1.131578947368421" src="http://bbs.jjxw.cn/plugin.php?id=wcn_editor:wx_img&url=https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/z0LoJUtoPxR7Y9H4amYePlqaDX8fnhicgY95wxORD8DNXWVXSgQWoHdiaQ6ALPWpItic0GUicjNHcsyHKpA1g2gUwQ/640?wx_fmt=png" data-type="png" data-w="38" data-width="100%" style="box-sizing: border-box;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;display: block;width: 20px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;visibility: visible !important;"/></section><section data-bcless="darken" data-bclessp="30%" data-brushtype="text" hm_fix="269:265" style="margin-top: -14px;padding: 8px 1em;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;background: rgb(183, 237, 255);border-width: 2px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(100, 53, 152);color: rgb(100, 53, 152);overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 16px;">业主投诉交房时间延期</span></section></section></section></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">2020年4月,李先生订购了一套微公馆的公寓房,约定<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">同年9月份</span>交房。没想到交房时间一拖再拖,并且验收时,开发商又以多种名义收取了合同上没有明确的费用,直到缴纳相关费用才交付钥匙。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"/></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">开发商的种种行为让李先生很是郁闷,“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">当时买的时候他们口头承诺,具体我也没细看,因为我心想本来就这么大点地方,不会出太多问题,结果还是出问题了。</span>”</span></p><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="95975" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;letter-spacing: 0.544px;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;text-align: center;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;display: inline-block;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin-left: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; width: 20px; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><img data-ratio="1.131578947368421" src="http://bbs.jjxw.cn/plugin.php?id=wcn_editor:wx_img&url=https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/z0LoJUtoPxR7Y9H4amYePlqaDX8fnhicgY95wxORD8DNXWVXSgQWoHdiaQ6ALPWpItic0GUicjNHcsyHKpA1g2gUwQ/640?wx_fmt=png" data-type="png" data-w="38" data-width="100%" style="box-sizing: border-box;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;display: block;width: 20px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;visibility: visible !important;"/></section><section data-bcless="darken" data-bclessp="30%" data-brushtype="text" hm_fix="308:264" style="margin-top: -14px;padding: 8px 1em;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;background: rgb(183, 237, 255);border-width: 2px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(100, 53, 152);color: rgb(100, 53, 152);overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 16px;">业主认为收取燃气初装费不合理</span></section></section></section></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">根据李先生提供的合同,第10条第4款燃气部分条款:“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">交付时完成室内燃气管道的铺设,并与城市燃气管网连接,保证燃气供应。</span>”然而开发商要求物业在交屋时,让所有人再缴交2300块的燃气初装费。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; min-height: 1em; letter-spacing: 0.544px; line-height: 2em; font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"></span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">对此,李先生认为是违约行为,要求立即退款。“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">当时是你交钥匙的时候必须交的,我们后来了解过,燃气初装费是不需要交的,(开发商)说如果签字自愿不装燃气就可以退钱,但当时我们买房的时候是说通天然气的。</span>”</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; min-height: 1em; letter-spacing: 0.544px; line-height: 2em; font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"></span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">此外,根据合同第8条第1项第1款表明:“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">逾期180日之内,买受人按日计算向出卖人支付逾期应付款万分之一的违约金。</span>”李先生表示,原本6月30日前要交屋的日期,因为疫情的关系,最多延后两个月(8月31号),然而交屋通知到9月底,后又延到11月12号,才陆续交房,这也明显与合同约定时间不符。</span></p><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="95975" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;letter-spacing: 0.544px;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;text-align: center;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;display: inline-block;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin-left: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; width: 20px; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><img data-ratio="1.131578947368421" src="http://bbs.jjxw.cn/plugin.php?id=wcn_editor:wx_img&url=https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/z0LoJUtoPxR7Y9H4amYePlqaDX8fnhicgY95wxORD8DNXWVXSgQWoHdiaQ6ALPWpItic0GUicjNHcsyHKpA1g2gUwQ/640?wx_fmt=png" data-type="png" data-w="38" data-width="100%" style="box-sizing: border-box;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;display: block;width: 20px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;visibility: visible !important;"/></section><section data-bcless="darken" data-bclessp="30%" data-brushtype="text" hm_fix="275:272" style="margin-top: -14px;padding: 8px 1em;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;background: rgb(183, 237, 255);border-width: 2px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(100, 53, 152);color: rgb(100, 53, 152);overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 16px;">开发商回复</span></section></section></section></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">随后,记者带着李先生的这些疑问来到了微公馆售楼部,置业工作人员告诉记者,由于房子已全部售出,他们也在清场中,具体问题要联系开发商解决。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">于是,记者找到微公馆开发商江西摩根竣安实业有限公司的负责人,负责人程根生就业主对收取燃气初装费的疑问回复如下:“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-weight: 700;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">因为我们土地性质是商业,这个公寓叫服务性公寓,不叫住宅型公寓</span></span><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">。2015年底,江西省发改委已经发布通知,就是<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-weight: 700;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">商业非住宅联排别墅、民房、老旧小区的(燃气)初装费都要自理</span>。新开发的商品房是由开发商纳入建筑成本,不再向业主收取这笔费用。因为我们这个土地性质是商服用地,我们可以建餐厅可以建宾馆,可以建办公楼,什么都可以,和商品房是两种概念。</span>”</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">对于业主们普遍反映的延期问题,<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">程根生</span>解释是<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;font-weight: 700;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">受疫情影响,大部分工人来自湖北,所以导致迟迟不能继续动工,延误了交房时间,这属于“不可抗力因素”</span>。“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">在我们这边的建筑行业基本上都是湖北的比较多,农民工在这个还有好多地方都出不来,五月份都出不来。我们合同已经写清楚了,正常情况下延期交房是有赔付标准的,特别注明一点不可抗力因素除外,疫情属于不可抗力因素。</span>”</span></p><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="95975" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;letter-spacing: 0.544px;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;text-align: center;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;display: inline-block;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin-left: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; width: 20px; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center;"><img data-ratio="1.131578947368421" src="http://bbs.jjxw.cn/plugin.php?id=wcn_editor:wx_img&url=https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/z0LoJUtoPxR7Y9H4amYePlqaDX8fnhicgY95wxORD8DNXWVXSgQWoHdiaQ6ALPWpItic0GUicjNHcsyHKpA1g2gUwQ/640?wx_fmt=png" data-type="png" data-w="38" data-width="100%" style="box-sizing: border-box;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;display: block;width: 20px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;visibility: visible !important;"/></section><section data-bcless="darken" data-bclessp="30%" data-brushtype="text" hm_fix="267:276" style="margin-top: -14px;padding: 8px 1em;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;background: rgb(183, 237, 255);border-width: 2px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(100, 53, 152);color: rgb(100, 53, 152);overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 16px;">律师意见</span></section></section></section></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">为此,记者咨询了<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">江西际民律所律师柳林</span>,他认为,应结合疫情期间封城以及政府禁止建筑施工类项目施工的期间段时间,进行相应顺延。“<span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-family: 微软雅黑, Arial, sans-serif;">由于客观原因所导致的没有办法去进行施工,那么可以适当去顺延,但是有一定期限的。如果说过了这个时间段了,允许你恢复建筑施工的话,那么应当从那个时候为截止,来计算到底合理的延长期限是有多久。</span>”</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;line-height: 2em;font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">最后,李先生提出,大部分微公馆的业主除了以上两点共同的问题之外,还存在一些不同的质疑(如部分房屋质量问题,收取代办费、工本费等)。如果与开发商之间不能协商成功,业主将通过法律途径来维护自己的合法权益。</span></p><section data-role="paragraph" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"><p style="margin-bottom: 10px;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;text-align: center;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"/></p></section><section data-role="paragraph" style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"><p style="margin-bottom: 10px;box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box;max-width: 100%;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-size: 14px;">来源:九江交通广播</span></p><p style="white-space: normal;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: -apple-system-font, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 0.544px;text-align: center;widows: 1;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;box-sizing: border-box !important;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br/></p></section></section><p></p><link rel="stylesheet" href="http://bbs.jjxw.cn/source/plugin/wcn_editor/public/wcn_editor_fit.css?v134_yF3" id="wcn_editor_css"/>

天天888 发表于 2021-1-10 21:17:55

感觉还是有很多九江人不使用天然气啊

我真的没有钱 发表于 2021-1-11 08:29:47

其实是没错的,开发商说的那个燃气初装费是这样的。所以没有必要纠结,并不是说只向你一个人收取,大家都要交的。商用公寓和住宅公寓是有区别的。很多商用公寓都不给通燃气的。

崔洪13907027 发表于 2021-1-14 03:53:28

什么初装费,广州天然气都是免费安装,还送煤气灶。
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